Friday, May 21, 2010

Healthcare Spending was $2 TRILLION Last Year. That is $20,000 per Worker!?

Isn't it obvious that the average worker in American cannot generate enough output to keeping paying for allowing everyone to get the most advanced treatments?





Will any candidate address this issue?





Does your family consume much in healthcare? My family doesn't . We get physicals and go to the dentist. End of story.





Who is using the majority of healthcare?

Healthcare Spending was $2 TRILLION Last Year. That is $20,000 per Worker!?
As always, the elderly consume the vast majority
Reply:Most of it is spent in administrative overhead.





The most expensive part of a GM car is the healthcare paid to its workers. This needs to stop.
Reply:I would like your source on this. I find the 20k a little high and suspect without a firm source to site.
Reply:Health care in the U.S. amounts to one seventh of our GNP. That is an outrage. There needs to be change. We are all being robbed by this industry.
Reply:I would like to see how much of that 2 trillion actually went to health care providers and how much went to insurance companies.
Reply:It goes into the pockets of the industry. This $20,000 figure is the rate of astronomically inflated prices for treatment. The average cost of a visit here is 1500% higher than that of the UK. And the quality of service is about the same.





(I have a friend who works a s PT over there)





So don't blame the American people. Blame the bloated industry.
Reply:The real question you need to ask is how much money is the health insurance industry making? I happen to know that their profits are substantial despite their employee cutbacks and cries of lost revenue.





As for who needs the healthcare...my family is like yours. We only need routine treatments. Except, that is, when my son needed a series of life-saving surgeries to the tune of $900K. So, yes we used it and thank God we had great health care plans. Not every child in that hospital was as blessed as us. However, don't they deserve the same quality of care?
Reply:Your numbers do not look believeable to me.
Reply:nonsense. there are 150 million workers in America, not 100 million. It was 13,335 per worker.





there are another 150 million in America who do not work. So the per person figure was 6, 665 [rounded]





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and the majority of health care, as most folk know is used by elderly people and they use the largest portion of it in the last year of their life.
Reply:If it costs us this much now without government run healthcare, what do you think will happen if the liberal democrats get their universal healthcare?





The only way to accurately address this issue is to address those who are getting all that healthcare, illegals and generational welfare recipiants. Those issues are being addressed by some members of the republican party, but no democrat will address these issues. They need the votes.





And no middle-class, tax-paying family in this country can afford this type of cost for those who do not pay taxes and/or want the government to pay for everything.





It is time to say the Great Society has not worked.








EDIT to Spock: Get real! go to your local health clinic funded by the government and you tell me who you see in there. You will find illegals, younger adults with 2,3 and 4 children and no job, and some elderly. It is usually a 30:50:20 ratio.
Reply:Vote Obama


I have 3 kids and can only afford health care for them. Not my spouse and myself. No health care system should deny you base on if you have a pre-existing condition. Health care industries are crooks.


http://www.barackobama.com/issues/health...
Reply:For-profit Health Care costs more for the average patient (as Frankly said). It only makes common sense... on top of the actual cost (including administration) you have to add the profit portion... non-profit equals the actual cost... and that's it.





Read the article in "sources" if you like.





And where does all this "illegals" cost come from? Do illegals get health care under the for-profit model? Why would a universal health care system be any different? If you aren't supposed to get it in the for-profit system (you can't afford it), you don't have to get it in a universal health care system (you're not a citizen). It's really quite simple.
Reply:I don't think it's the doctors and providers who are pocketing the money, I think it's the HMO's who are getting the payout. When I get a bill from my doctor, it shows what portion of the billed amount was paid by my insurance company, it isn't much! And the remainder gets written off. Pretty sweet deal for the insurance companies, they can say how much they will pay for a certain procedure and the doctor has to accept it or not be a part of their network.





And that is not even addressing the lawsuits that are brought against doctors with the damages paid in the millions. I agree that some mistakes are horrible and the doctor should answer that, but the damage amounts should be capped and the frivolous ones should never come to trial.





Medical bills are the number 1 cause of bankruptcy in this country right now. And it isn't just people without insurance who are in trouble. People with insurance are getting the run around about claims, what with 'no coverage for pre-existing ort undisclosed conditions' and downright cancellation of policies on people dealing with catastrophic illness or accidents. It's disgraceful what they are able to get away with.





I believe if you look at the democrats, you will find that they all address it. And the Republicans do too, in their own way.

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