Why Do People In Prison Get Pampered When A Hard Working Man Who Pays Taxes Can Barely See a Doctor???

Just think there are families who struggle day to day paying for doctors appointments such as dentists getting their teeth fixed cost out the butt... Then people in prison get education dentist eyes fixed anything they need and a man who pays the taxes which goes to the government for such things more or less suffers because the price of seeing a doctor is a great deal of money these days

Why Do People In Prison Get Pampered When A Hard Working Man Who Pays Taxes Can Barely See a Doctor???
I agree completely with big_john. But might I add, prisoners do not have choices anymore. The only one they do make is whether to survive prison life , or let it kill them. To wake up everyday, hoping you will wake up tomorrow brings no peace within yourself. Then to go to bed with one eye open, everynight hoping you will get a good night sleep so you can wake up again hoping you make it through another day."not ever knowing" your place, getting your butt kicked , or worse getting raped day after day by other inmates or guards, getting your chow stolen, getting blackmailed out of the little money you may have on your books, the horrors go on and on. My point is healthcare? no. lavish prison living? no. Everything we all have is a choice....so you choose to question something you know nothing about, prison life and poor people obtaining healthcare. fine with me. remember, anyone- can choose to make a better life for themselves and be eligible for "super meds" or not . Worry less about the guys and gals that are paying for their bad choices they made in the free world, and if un fair health care really is your concern, then do something about it. that would be awesome!
Reply:i'd rather have bad health care then be in jail
Reply:Hard working men have their freedom. Men in prison would love to trade places. That's why those places have things like walls and towers and big guys with guns.
Reply:You know, i never really liked how people in prison got pampered either. Its seriously not fair. Anything they could possibly need is catered to them, at no cost to them of course, but at a cost for me. i wish we could choose where our tax money went, because mine wouldnt go to prisons and jails, things of that kind.
Reply:If they really wanted to trade places with free men, they would straighten up their act and we wouldnt have the revolving door.
Reply:Your ignorance is showing. Just like everything else, it is easy to make judgements if you don't know the facts. Regular prisoners do not get pampered. Now if you're talking about the Martha Stewarts of the world, that's different. My son is losing his teeth because he cannot see a dentist, hasn't had glasses in two years, cannot get antibiotics, showers with 7 others, sits on the john with a crowd.


My other son who fought in Iraq twice cannot afford an apartment in our state. I don't think you are the only one having problems.


Maybe you should quit whining and be grateful for what you do have.
Reply:Because the minds of those, who create the laws and policies, are more warped than they would like to reveal. They have warped sense of priorities!
Reply:I agree. Some body last night suggested sending them to war, the front line. That is one of the greatest ideas. Put child molesters, kidnappers, rapist, and the nasty law breaking citizens on the front line. Look at how much our government is spending on other countries and does not help our people. It turns my stomach. Help honest citizens should be our goal first and for most. At least we know that we are honest.
Reply:Good question but I would never want to be in jail...
Reply:Depends on the prison. I was told by a coworker, that he visited a friend of his in prison (Who was a Medical Doctor). He murdered his wife. He was there to help him move in a big screen TV. He saw I was appaulled, so he explained that he paid for the TV. THe thing was I was appaulled he had a room that could fit a big screen TV. He was a murderer, but because he was rich, he got to go to Minimum security prison. On the other hand the poor goes to Max. Its not all sunshine there. Disease is rampant and people die of other reasons. My problem is this countries interpretation of cruel and unusual punishment. Punishment is so uneven. I heard one prison, you commonly get lobster, while others are lucky to get road kill.
Reply:I don't know about the pampered prisoner situation but I know the cost of health care and what it means to go with out.





I think if government officials had to pay for their own health care the problem would already be fixed.
Reply:That is ridiculous... People have somehow gotten the opinion that the prisons are some type of country club or something... Did you know that in Wisconsin the budget to feed a prisoner is 50cents a day? In Arizona where they live in tent camps it is much lower than that.





When you are in prison your whole body ages at about twice the rate it does on the outside- I know a woman who did 8 years in the federal system for mail fraud and came out looking 20 years older... The medical care in prison is completely substandard to what is available on the outside... That is one of the main reasons that mob boss John Gotti died at only 62yrs old... His dental implants got infected and they wouldn't do anything for him besides asprin until it was too late and the inflammation turned into jaw and mouth cancer and killed him.





Look into it a little bit more and you will find out that prison is noplace anyone wants to be no matter how poor they are.





And to the guy that said there's a prison where they commonly get lobster- that's not accurate. There is one prison where the purchasing agent managed to get some super deal where lobsters from some supplier were the same price as the hamburger meat they had been getting. The prisoners got lobster one time and it was all over the newspapers, people were outraged and that was the last time that ever happened.





I would take a homeless shelter over prison or jail any day of the week.
Reply:ok here are the facts, prisoners do have to pay for dental care, medical visits, glasses etc. many have family members who send them money and those who do not have to work long hours doing some pretty grueling work for about 25 cents an hour to afford these things. the tv's that they all have, they have to pay for, the shampoo, the soap, everything they have they have to pay for. now they pay a much smaller cost than you and i but it is all relative to money they make as well. all things considered inmates do live pretty comfortably but then again at pretty much any time and without warning the guards can search their rooms take any and all things that are not on the small list of allowables, and in many cases have them sent to "the hole" for a day or 2 for having these items. they are told when to eat, miss meal time and you better hope you have some money to buy some food, they are told when they can go outside, when they can shower, when they can watch tv. while they have some pretty nice amenities and not to many responsibilities, i would never want to be a prisoner.





and to the lobster guy and the guy who says it is untrue, in fact at one time in the federal penitentiary system, they used to eat steak and eggs and chicken and lobster and fish and pretty much all the best foods you can imagine. also at that time the inmates ran the farms raised and slaughtered the cattle and so on and so forth. all the food was raised and eaten in house. and the inmates were pretty happy over all. then some moron during the carter administration decided that somehow that wasn't cost effective and it went away. in many states though much of the food, and most of the furniture, found in a penitentiary were produced right there inside the pen. and many times these products sold outside of the pen and purchased by families at all sorts of places you shop at every day.
Reply:Poor baby.





Why don't you go quit whining, rob a liquor story and go live the good life with all those "pampered prisoners"?
Reply:blame your government. theyre the ones making health care so expensive. theyre the ones who demand your taxes that support criminals. theyre also the ones who want more people in prison anyways. revolving door or not, prisoners are stripped of their freedom and their liberties, and they will be affected the rest of their lives; they have just as bad, if not worse, of an opportunity to get health care, much less a valid job that gives them health care. the prison system is a business, and prisoners are chattel; theyre abused, beaten, and damaged in more ways than people understand. they may be rapists and murderers, but nothing is being done to rehabilitate them as humans. instead, they are treated as less than human. theyre there to produce... you know those "made in USA" products? a lot of them were made by prisoners for mere cents an hour, aka slave wages.





my point is, you really have nothing to be jealous of. with or without healthcare, you probably have a life worth living.
Reply:Mahal, I beg to differ. If men in prison would rather trade places, why the hell is the recidivism rate in this country so high??? The biggest majority of inmates who get out of prison, turn around and come right back.Most people would not believe the rights these prisoners have. I totally agree with the question. An inmate can get a complete set of dentures that cost me about $1500 and thats with insurance. Up until recently if a male came to prison and prior to incarceration was on hormones for pre-sex change surgery, the state paid for the treatments. Thank God they stopped that. I bet alot of people were unaware that their tax dollars were paying for that. I could go on and on. I have been a correctional officer for many years and the privelages and benefits these criminals get is sickening. I have even had inmates tell me they came to prison to get dental and health care. They may not be free from the wall that confine them, but they have more freedoms than you think.


After reading other comments, I felt compelled to add. I have worked corrections in two very different states. As far as an inmate having to pay for medical or dental, they only have to pay IF they have money in their account. If they are indigent, they pay nothing. If they do have to pay, it is something like $2.00 for a medical visit. The state CANNOT deny them access to medical care.
Reply:Good question.





We need simpler cheaper prisons.





Maybe we could out-source to Mexico.


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Reply:Hey tater I have been there and any time you feel they have it better in there than you do out here, well your just a crime away from the "free ride". I spent a year and a half plowing fields with a hoe and picking cotton by hand and spreading my ********* every time I went through a door. I'll take the "hard" life out here any day.
Reply:No one who has ever seen the inside of a prison would call it pampering.
Reply:What prison have you been visiting? I'd like to arrange for a cherished friend to be transferred there! The top notch medical/dental care I'm always hearing about would be nice!He had a small cavity in one tooth and the answer was to pull the tooth, he needs to see a doctor to renew a prescription for a chronic condition (no, it's not a drug with any recreational potential, it's Prilosec) but can't see the doc because he is not bleeding, and when he does get that script renewed, he'll be paying for it or rather either his mom or I will be doing so. The situation has gotten so bad with prison health care that a federal judge recently ordered the whole department into recievership.


He shares a 6 x 12 cell with one other man, and counts himself lucky that there are not 3 in that cell due to the amazingly overcrowded state of the facility, he gets to leave that cell about 4 hours a day, including shower, chow, dayroom and yard time... and THAT is when the facility is not on lockdown due to drastic understaffing, courtesy of the completely outrageous hiring process mandated by the Union...on lockdown, it really is in the cell, 24/7, food passed through the door, etc the only thing that keeps going is the mail (and by the way, I send him paper,envelopes and postage, unless it is a letter to one's attorney of record AND there is no money on one's books, the prison does not pay for letters)....the educational programs, IF an inmate qualifies AND if there is a slot available in the class.....and surely you see the need to try to educate these people to improve the chances of their becoming productive citizens upon release?


The showers are hot and reasonably clean, but inmates buy their own soap, shampoo, toothpaste, etc.


The food is a joke, and is barely legal in quantity and quality... most inmates get VERY creative with the top ramen that is available at the commisary...


What Gym/weight room are you talking about? My friend does an aerobic routine in his cell each morning and spends about half his time in the yard running his usual 3 to 5 miles, but there's no equipment available...I'm not complaining about that, but I'd like to know where you get your information.





As to other recreational activities, if there are video games, it has not been mentioned to me... Television in the day room where what to watch is decided by vote...any TVs or radios in the cells were not provided by the state and are not "big screen" 13 inches is the maximum size allowed, either the inmate or someone like me purchased them and like quarterly packages and phone calls (collect and incredibly costly) they are a privilige that is EARNED... Surely you can see the value of rewarding good behavior?
Reply:You don't get pampered in prison, you just get more than a homeless person.





Food, clothing, and shelter.





You can also get raped and killed or maimed there.